Class 01 01002 inside Holyhead Breakwater shed in early black livery. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Lima class 47 D1574 British Rail Green Livery UNBOXED at the best online prices at eBay! Introduced originally by the Great Western Railway, the Travelling Post Office would set out from London in the dead of night and deliver . Great Britain's railway system was built by private companies, but it was nationalised by the Transport Act 1947 and was run from then onwards by British Railways (which traded as British Rail from 1965) until privatisation, which was begun in 1994 and completed in 1997. Thanks. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. [10], Andrew Haines and Peter Hendy, the current CEO and chairman of Network Rail respectively, are overseeing the establishment of GBR. Great British Railways ( GBR) is a planned state-owned public body that will oversee rail transport in Great Britain, [1] with the exception of Transport for London and Merseytravel services, and light rail and trams elsewhere in England. You also get a more legible and cohesive transport system. What is of 2020s Britain then? This long term strategy for rail will be a landmark resource, enabling a clear and agreed direction for the railway. [7], The reorganisation does not affect Northern Ireland, where the railway is already operated by the vertically integrated and already wholly state-owned Northern Ireland Railways. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? Scottish rolling stock not covered by the ScotRail livery (generally those on secondary services) received the Regional Railways livery, but with "ScotRail" branding. Wrap yourself up in the flag and sing rule Brittania. Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. They were repainted into blue/grey in the early 1970s. It does look better than red. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. The smokebox, running plate, and running gear remained black, and the bufferbeam remained red. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. Another Class 52, No.D1015 Western Champion was delivered in another, darker yellow/brown colour described as 'Golden Ochre', though somewhat different from that applied to D5579. Also, yes, the actual report has a typo, it really does say 'refect' instead of 'reflect'. A nod to the past in the liveries would be nice like with the modern GWR too. Launched as the London & South East Sector "Express Livery" this was a short-lived scheme which appeared on a limited amount of units and routes before the advent of Network SouthEast's "toothpaste" red white and blue striped livery. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. For cost reasons, liveries were usually changed piecemeal, when coaches came in for scheduled maintenance. But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britain's strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. Great British Railways: Livery, branding and appearance? I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. This livery was well received by enthusiasts but as the Class 56s only hauled freight, it was decided to extend the experiment to a passenger loco. However, these bodies will be required to coordinate with GBR to deliver a single national rail network, including one website and app, as well as following national branding and passenger standards. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. The bottom one is basically Serco era Northern signage, and does look good to me, though I would go for a subtle double arrow in the bottom right as I said earlier, and omit the GBR text. Nothing to bring it all together. The coaches for the XP64 train were painted in a slightly lighter version of what would eventually become Rail Blue, with a 44-inch-wide (1,100mm) Pale Ivory stripe centred on the passenger windows, and brown underframe. Anyone got a suggestion for the government's latest bright idea today along the same lines, '. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. On the other hand Avanti's branding is awful - there is no "Italian flair" in it at all. I'd go along with that from a "looks right" perspective, but it would be almost impossible to see from (for instance) inside a train in darkness. This has been confirmed by records held at the National Railway Museum. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. GBR is similar enough to channel some continuity with BR but distinct enough to admit it's a different entity. Because for my money blue & grey is not the "same basic livery" as Swallow, neither is NSEs toothpaste anything like the red and cream worn in the 50s. BRs own history says otherwise. Here are his exact words: Hes concerned with the English vote. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. It will also control the contracting of passenger train services, the setting of fares and timetables, and the collection of fare revenue, with the exception of services wholly within Scotland and Wales. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The BR Saint & TPO Livery Pack adds additional liveries to the GWR Saint & TPO add-on, enabling you to recreate realistic travelling post office operations in the British Railway era. [13], On 5 February 2022, the Department for Transport launched a public consultation for the location of GBRs headquarters. Coaches from different regions could also often find themselves coupled together and trains of 2 or 3 mixed liveries were not uncommon. The pleasure's all mine. Theres no vote in Northern Ireland for him or his Conservative party so he doesnt care, hes hands off.. Steam locomotive 61306 Mayflower seen just outside Sittingbourne, Kent at lunchtime today. Given that the vast majority of passengers dont really care what the brand is, do GBR really need a brand? Most of the coverage has focused on this. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. Why could GBR franchises not do the same? Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. I'm inclined to disagree. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. Please can you explain the advantage of such a nationwide livery? Other examples are available Once they'd ditched single colour liveries, they didn't really do anything that wasn't ", One can only hope for a Sectorised return to NSE. Our railways play a fundamental role in supporting the economic, environmental and social achievements of the country. Sadly cream on modern stock looks quite bad, or I suspect one incarnation of GWR might have tried it white might work ok instead. It's good work (and the previous set). Originally a trading brand of the Railway Executive of the British Transport . GBR will develop masterplans for station renewal. How about that but the double arrow in red? In response to this announcement, the Great British Railways Transition Team is looking at changes to support the development of the new industry structure, and considering ways in which the current system can be simplified and improved. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. Once we lose TOC branding I certainly think service categories need to return, if only on the Dutch basis of them only describing service patterns rather than anything else. We use cookies. In terms of signage, here's what I was working on this morning: Compared to the superb branding packages of TfW and ScotRail, it does not say "come use the railway, it's good", it says "we have spent the bare minimum, stick to your car". OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. The final decision was to be made later in 2022,[16] but the result has not been announced as of February 2023. It'll be operated quite differently. Maybe a "way out" arrow similar to Thameslink's station signage could make it more exciting, while also adding a bit more functionality? Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. This mock-up was shown in an orange and grey livery, which, however, never appeared on rolling stock in service. GBR is not quite the same, so they no doubt want it to be seen as distinct; plus, it may not even be possible to call it BR, there might be legal implications (just a guess). In 1986 the British Railways Board divided its operations into a number of sectors (sectorisation).The sector responsible for long-distance express trains assumed the brand-name . Could GBRTT be right for you? Home Forums The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. This idea often seems to pop its head up. This error in colour identification comes from an article and question published in a Model Railway Magazine in the 1950s, where the responding editor made the error, and it has frequently been repeated since then. Bare minimum, low effort. You are using an out of date browser. [3] Goods (freight) services are operated by a number of companies, the descendants of those created during the 1990s privatisation. (60163 still carries this livery in 2018) Black. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. for some form of co-branding. Apple Green. Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; I wanted to go for something modern yet flexible. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. Managed to get a look at a new proposed one: But my point is that DB have had the same basic livery for so long. There are conflicting view on Britain versus Great Britain. [7]. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Japan had JNR (Japan National Railways) and now, post nationalisation, it has JR (Japan Railways). The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. I would rather that operations were branded similar to how they are now, but with a few changes compared with the existing TOC areas as follows: Chiltern Railways renamed as Chiltern & Oxbridge, with brand used on all planned EWR services in addition to those from London Marylebone. I suspect not many. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. for some form of co-branding. don't see an issue anywhere, as long as the concessions stay branded with whatever. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. It isnt hard to believe that there may be some truth to the suggestion that Johnson would be less cavalier in his treatment of Ulster if it returned even a handful of Government MPs. NR do infrastructure in Wales & Scotland, don't they? Unfortunately, there is little sign that Beattie actually intends to do anything differently, in this regard at least, to the Democratic Unionists he hopes to supplant. Home Forums I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard. TL:DR - if your a british collector, and you paint your own, PUT THE STRIPPER DOWN. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. Agree, having at least 'intercity', 'regional' and 'metro' would be good. The rail system is no more a public service than coach companies or supermarkets. And if Northern are still running trains to Glasgow, a new paint job would be a great moment for the Government to stump up for good rolling stock. particularly associated with the depots at Old Oak Common and [13] Initially new locos were still painted in the traditional Rail Blue livery, but starting with Class 56 number 56084 the new Large Logo version was standard on new locos delivered to BR. The anniversary of the Battle of Hastings which took place in 1066 was also used in publicity for the line. I really quite like that now. | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Clean, modern, easy to read, looks good and in the right colour set. In 1978 the British Railways Board began planning a new livery for the future, and in that August Class 56 diesel locomotive 56036 was painted to test a modified livery[11][12] of all-over Rail Blue with the entire loco front in bright yellow to improve visibility, this extending down the sides of the loco to the rear of the cab windows which were, in turn, outlined in black. [14] By 16 March (the deadline for submitting expressions of interest), 42 towns and cities had expressed an interest in hosting GBR's headquarters. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. What possible negatives are there to none enthusiasts? Due to the consequent muddle of liveries, many trains began to get an untidy if not tatty appearance which added to the run-down image of the railway. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Non-corridor coaching stock and other multiple units received all-over Rail Blue until about 1980, when most received the same blue/grey livery as corridor coaching stock. Can you only be professional if every rail person works in the same uniform? Due to the small number of units repainted it was common to see trains with two or more units in different liveries. 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